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"If we who served and those who were otherwise involved do not, through our words and deeds, challenge the revisionist history, a generation of young American fighting men will be forever denigrated and a vital chapter in our national history will be remembered erroneously." 

J. Eldon(Jer) Yates

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Not grieving Enough for Kim Jung Il ]
Posted: jeyates @ January/17/2012 03:37

North Korean citizens are being arrested and will be imprisoned, for not grieving enough at Kim Jung Ils' Memorial.  Communism is nefarious!

But North Korea has given an example so outrageous that on the surface it appears hilarious (plus Kim Jung Ils Coffin lashed to the top of the Limo during his funeral procession is fodder for a Jeff Foxworthy punch line). These Airplainesque scenarios should serve to remind us that there is evil in the world even when it appears as Theatre of the Absurd.   But as our giggles subside North Korean citizens will be, at the very least, imprisoned and enslaved. 

Most Occidentals think Kim Jung Il and His Father Kim Il Sung were Crazy. But they were simply evil sociopath's in an Oriental culture in witch many politico and social mores are sociopathic, by Occidental standards. And give thought; the peoples of North Korea have the "Kim edicts" as deeply ingrained in their value system as Jihad to the followers of radical Islam. Expect more of the same from both.

I have great respect for the citizens of the World that wish and pray for Peace. But beware, tyrants will stab you in the back while you are giving them a hug!

On lighter closing note; if any American President past away think of how many Americans would be jailed, if we had such a law.

*Currently the North Korea gulags (political prisons) imprison over a hundred thousand of their citizens.


J. Eldon Yates



Edited by sstark on January/17/2012 at 17:57
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Discrimination against Veterans ]
Posted: jeyates @ March/02/2010 15:20

Protected Class Status for Veterans

 J. Eldon (Jer) Yates, MA                                       Douglas Herrmann, PhD
 Vietnam Veterans Institute                              College Educators for Veterans
                                                                                         Higher Education

Discrimination against veterans has legal, ethical and moral implications.   Admiral John E. Gordon* recently addressed all three of these implications in his October presentation about the possible protected class status of veterans.  The two authors of this white paper cannot address the legal implications of the possible protected class status of veterans because we do not have the appropriate legal background.  However, as veterans we have legitimate views of the ethical and moral implicates of such status.  

             Below we share our views in order to indicate our support to Admiral Gordon’s arguments in favor of the protected class status for veterans.  We address current protected class status, the possibility of such status of other groups, and then the ethical and moral reasons for providing protected class status to veterans.

             Protected Class Status for Different Groups in General.  Females, minority races, and those who practice minority sexual preferences are currently protected against discrimination.  No doubt there are people who belong to other groups that need legal protection against discrimination.   The poor, obese, deformed, obviously ill, are among the people who are also discriminated against on the basis of their characteristics.

             Discrimination Against Veterans.  Veterans constitute another group that is discriminated against.  However, veterans differ from other groups because veterans constitute the only group that protects the freedom of all the other groups.  Ethically, veterans deserve protected class status on ethical and moral grounds.       Anyone who is discriminated against on the basis of membership in a group has encountered a practice that is unethical because it is unfair.   Unfair discrimination need not be intentional to be unfair.   Rosa Parks was directed to sit in the back of a bus by people who did not recognize that their behavior was intentionally unfair.   So, while it is currently legal for people in academia to discriminate against students who are veterans, such discrimination is unfair in the same way that discrimination against other groups is unfair in principal and legally unfair if the discrimination involves the current protected classes is unfair. 

             Anyone who is discriminated against on the basis of membership in a group has encountered a practice is immoral in violating the “golden rule.”  Thus, discrimination against veterans is immoral in this sense.  In addition, it is immoral to discriminate against veterans for a second reason that does not apply to any other group, including the current protected classes.  Veterans have the characteristic of having devoted part of their life to protecting all groups in American society through serving in the military. 

             Participation in the military involves risk.   Some veterans acquire disabilities from service in peacetime.   Others acquire disabilities from service during war.   If someone saved someone from drowning in a public pool, we would admire the behavior of such a hero.   If someone ignores a drowning person, this person’s behavior would be regarded as immoral.  Veterans (including servicemembers) stand ready to save the endangered person.  Thus, ignoring the contribution of veterans is immoral.   Awarding protection to those who are saved but not to actual or potential saviors is doubly immoral.

             Few colleges and universities have policies that protect veterans from discrimination.    At least one study indicated that no more than 10% held any policy of any strength against discrimination.   Higher education might choose to establish a policy that prohibited discrimination at any higher educational institution.   However, as Admiral Gordon has pointed out, enforcement of such a policy would be difficult to administer.   If we want to keep our veterans from being subjected to discrimination in higher education, or in society in general, a law should be established that protects veterans as a class from discrimination. 

 We call on our fellow Veterans Organizations to join our effort to support and foster legislation to assure protected class status for Veterans of the Armed Forces of United States of America.

 *Gordon, J. E. (2009) Protected Class Status and Veterans. Presented at the   

          Conf erence for Improving the College Education of Veterans.  College

          Educ ators for Veterans Higher Education, At the Servicemembers



Edited by sstark on January/03/2011 at 16:57
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Former Judge Advocate General of the Navy ]
Posted: jeyates @ February/10/2010 11:15


Rear Admiral John E. (Ted) Gordon, JAGC,USN(Ret.)

will speak at the February the 28th
Veterans on Campus  conference in Washing in Washington, DC
He will address the need for "Protected Class Status for Veterans".  An issue long advocated by VVI and the new Academic organization;
College Educators for Veterans Higher Education (CEVHE).

Rear Admiral Gordon retired from the US Navy after having served in several senior positions. He was the Judge Advocate General of the Navy from 1990 to 1992. He had previously served as the Deputy Judge Advocate General of the Navy and as the Commander of the Navy Legal Services Command. From 1987 to 1989 Radm Gordon was the Commander of the Naval Security Investigative Command, where he served simultaneously as the Director of the Naval Investigative Service and as the Assistant Director of Naval Intelligence for Counterintelligence. During these assignments Radm Gordon supervised much of the conduct of the largest Government criminal procurement investigation, Ill Wind, and the investigation into the Marine Corps Security Guard involvement in allowing Soviet agents access to the US Embassy in Moscow. Both investigations resulted in substantial criminal convictions. From 1986 to 1987 Radm Gordon was the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense (Legislative Affairs) for Defense Secretary Casper Weinberger.

Prior to being promoted to flag rank, Radm Gordon seved as the Deputy Navy Chief of Legislative Affairs (Senate) and for over four years as Special Assistant to the Secretary of the Navy (John F. Lehman) for Legal and Legislative Affairs. He also served in several military justice positions such as Deputy Officer in Charge of the Philadelphia Navy Legal Service Office and as Special Court Martial Judge.
Radm Gordon entered the Navy up graduation from the U S Naval Academy in 1964. His early assignments included tours aboard two combatant ships (including service in the Vietnam War) and as the contracting officer for the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard. He recieved his Juris Doctor degree from Temple University School of Law in 1973.
Radm Gordon has served as the Judge Advocate for the Navy League, Judge Advocate for the Naval Order and Judge Advocate for the Naval Academy Foundation. He is currently a Trustee and Judge Advocate for the Naval Academy Foundation (Athletic and Scholarship Division).

Also ADM Gordon, was Senior Vice President Washington Operations for Alliant Techsystems Inc. (ATK) from 2001 to April 2007. Prior to that he worked for Litton Industries serving as Vice President for Washington Operations. In both positions he was responsible for all company interface with Congress, the Federal Government, and all other customers in the Washington area.


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